congrats blu-ray

{OF}Blong · 03-09-2008, 06:35 AM

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New data shows that the price of Blu-ray players has been in an upward trend since HD DVD's demise.

The data from pricegrabber.com that shows the average price of a given player for a given time.

TG Daily collected the data, which shows an upward trend in price for Blu-ray players.

On January 1st 2008 (Before Warner chose Blu-ray) the average price of a Panasonice DMP-BD30K player was $401. On March 2nd it was up at $495. The Sony BDP-S300 shows a similar trend with a January price of $307 and a March price of $386. Many of the players were also sold with free Blu-ray movies in January but these offers has ended as well.

The only Blu-ray players that seem to have fallen in price in the period are DUO players (that play both HD DVD and Blu-ray discs) from Samsung and LG.

Source: TG Daily, Pricegrabber.com

Hate to say I told you so but well I told you so. Yes I am talking about the players not the free movies. however its pretty sad people are whining about the free movie deal no longer happening.

Harbinger · 03-09-2008, 07:38 AM

Oh my this is a shock! Yes, I'm sure the good people that made HD DVD players would have kept the players at low prices should that format had won.

{OF}Blong · 03-09-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Oh my this is a shock! Yes, I'm sure the good people that made HD DVD players would have kept the players at low prices should that format had won.

well considering blu-ray has raised prices once before and HD DVD has never done so I would so no they wouldnt have.

Harbinger · 03-09-2008, 09:37 AM

I want to live in your world!

{DvT}JonahHex · 03-09-2008, 09:49 AM

The Sony player is about $400 more than I'm willing to pay for it.

Harbinger · 03-09-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by {DvT}JonahHex

The Sony player is about $400 more than I'm willing to pay for it.

Paid 4 bills for my PS3 and I'm very happy with it. After three red rings/replacements my 360 is gathering dust.

As far as pricing, both formats had their players being sold as loss leaders for the most part. Now that there is a dominate format the market will have to decide on the price. I mean they are allowed to make a profit on player sales. Or if you want to buy something being sold as a loss leader get a PS3.

{OF}Blong · 03-09-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Harbinger

Paid 4 bills for my PS3 and I'm very happy with it. After three red rings/replacements my 360 is gathering dust.

As far as pricing, both formats had their players being sold as loss leaders for the most part. Now that there is a dominate format the market will have to decide on the price. I mean they are allowed to make a profit on player sales. Or if you want to buy something being sold as a loss leader get a PS3.

I have had my 360 for a year now and not once had a problem with it. If i wanted a gaming system instead of a blu-ray player I woulda bought a ps3 cause for 80% of the people who bought a ps3 its first and foremost a gaming system and well the ps3 has no games out for it. On top of that when it quits playing movies because you can no longer upgrade the profiling on it I wont be surprised. Guess another "I told you so" will happen for ya then wont it.

Harb I am in no way saying blu-ray is a horrible/bad format. I am saying the company behind it is trying to screw the consumer MORE SO than any company has ever done in the past. Blu-ray will NEVER win the format war (and if you cant figure out im not talking hd dvd vs blu-ray you need to rethink your opinions). Whats also sad is sony is already talking with microsoft about movie downloads in high def rather than putting them on discs.

ChemicalWarrior · 03-09-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by {DvT}JonahHex

The Sony player is about $400 more than I'm willing to pay for it.

You want to pay $0? Seriously, the Sony Blu-Ray player is the PS3. Personally I think the PS3 is looking better and better as a media device and a gaming device and honestly I would rather buy it over the Xbox 360 at this point. I fully expect it to over take the Xbox 360 in game console sales within the next year world wide.

{OF}MadD! · 03-09-2008, 06:24 PM

Even Bill Hunt says Blu-Ray player prices need to come down.

On that note, having officially backed the Blu-ray Disc format since June of last year, we here at The Digital Bits have some suggestions to all the Blu-ray Disc studios and manufacturers as to how best to make Blu-ray an easy choice for consumers going forward. You BD guys listening? Yeah, I know you are. Here goes:

1. Blu-ray Disc hardware prices obviously need to come down by the 4th quarter to attract more mainstream consumers to the format. Offering Blu-ray player/HDTV deals makes sense, given the FCC's mandated deadline to switch to all-digital broadcasting by early next year (at midnight on 2/17/09 to be exact - click here for details), but it would be good if there were at least a few BD players priced in the $250 range or better by the holidays.

2. The Blu-ray Disc Association needs to make profile 2.0 support MANDATORY on all new players ASAP, and all hardware manufacturers need to make their new player models profile 2.0 compatible ASAP in order to avoid consumer confusion. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. We're getting many e-mails from readers who are interested in buying into Blu-ray now but are confused by the multiple profiles (and if that's you, I'll explain them in a moment). This is especially important when you consider how many firmware updates have been required to ensure hardware compatibility with software - built-in Internet connectivity is key to making this process easier and more consumer friendly.

3. Blu-ray Disc software prices should come down a little as well in time for the holidays. They're still too high for most people - definitely too high to encourage impulse purchasing. Rebates and incentives should be offered to encourage BD upgrades of catalog titles for people who may already own the same titles on DVD (as Buena Vista has recently done). It also wouldn't hurt to have a few more MAJOR and much-loved catalog titles available on Blu-ray before the end of the year (including more older classics). There's no better incentive for a movie-lover to upgrade than the release of a favorite film title in 1080p quality, and at a price that isn't going to break the budget.

4. The Blu-ray supporting studios who have previously supported HD-DVD need to release Blu-ray versions of those titles previously exclusive to HD-DVD ASAP. This is especially important with key titles like The Matrix, V for Vendetta, Heroes: Season One, Battlestar Galactica: Season One, Transformers, Top Gun and Star Trek: The Original Series Remastered - Season One. Those titles encouraged many people to buy HD-DVD players, and now many of those people feel like they've been led up the creek without a paddle. Meanwhile, the exclusivity of those titles to HD-DVD is a major sore spot with Blu-ray consumers. There's a lot of goodwill that needs to be restored all around with high-def consumers (Special word to Paramount and DreamWorks: Having now abandoned your high-def consumers not once but TWICE, you guys have a LOT of work to do in this area).

5. ALL BLU-RAY DISC TITLES, WHENEVER POSSIBLE, SHOULD BE RELEASED WITH LOSSLESS AUDIO. In the same way that anamorphic enhancement became standard on DVD to ensure the highest video quality possible, lossless audio is critical to ensuring the highest sonic quality on Blu-ray. 1080p video is clearly stunning, but it needs the sound to match it.

So that's our advice to the Blu-ray camp.

Harbinger · 03-09-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by {OF}Blong

I have had my 360 for a year now and not once had a problem with it. If i wanted a gaming system instead of a blu-ray player I woulda bought a ps3 cause for 80% of the people who bought a ps3 its first and foremost a gaming system and well the ps3 has no games out for it. On top of that when it quits playing movies because you can no longer upgrade the profiling on it I wont be surprised. Guess another "I told you so" will happen for ya then wont it.

Harb I am in no way saying blu-ray is a horrible/bad format. I am saying the company behind it is trying to screw the consumer MORE SO than any company has ever done in the past. Blu-ray will NEVER win the format war (and if you cant figure out im not talking hd dvd vs blu-ray you need to rethink your opinions). Whats also sad is sony is already talking with microsoft about movie downloads in high def rather than putting them on discs.

14 percent failure rate on the 360, I had my 360 for roughly a year before the first red ring.

Rethink my opinion? Please don't do my thinking for me ok? I'm well aware of digital downloads TYVM. When downloads are on a par with Blu-Ray AND my ISP doesn't traffic shape or cap my monthly downloads AND the average consumer can get the downloads on to their HD DVD without needing to be a geek then we'll talk. Best bet for that right now would be the Apple TV but that's an Apple product. I'm not sure who you have more of a hate on for though, Sony or Apple?

No games on the PS3? Oh please stop banging that drum already. That's nothing but 360 fanboism.... Both systems have good libraries.

FYI here is a link re the 360 failure rate

Xbox 360 failure rate at 16 percent? - Engadget

I'd be interested to see a similar link in regards to your 80 percent PS3 usage.

As far as "I told you so" weren't you the one that said HD would win?