Police video of a tasing that was well deserved? Yes/No - Page 2

Skidz · 06-03-2005, 07:34 PM

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...An 80 yr old women in a nursing home? ...

Ok now that is definately an exception to the rule!

LOL I know! It happened in Florida a few months ago. I wish I could find a link to the story because it was hilarious! They said she "resisted". LMAO!! I'd of loved to see video of that one! "OMG, please don't hit me! You're boney hands hurt"! LOL.

Of course this is the same state where a 5yr old was arrested for throwing a tantrum in class...and HANDCUFFED! "She was uncontrolable"! Yeah...O.K.

{OF}Blong · 06-03-2005, 11:36 PM

hmm gotta wait till i get home to play the video as It dont work here at work.

Kurgen · 06-04-2005, 01:01 AM

80-year olds and 6-year olds shouldn't be among the expected list of tazing targets. I think the woman in the car was about as dumb as a box of rocks. When an officer raises a gun to you and says "I'M GOING TO TAZE YOU IF YOU DON'T GET OUT OF THE CAR!" its time to get out of the car. Even if the officer is wrongly stopping you its not the time to put up a fight. Unless of course you're into s&m!

LoPo · 06-04-2005, 03:00 AM

What did she say(I watched this last night sorry) something like, "blah blah I'm getting arrest" to the other person on the phone. LOL.

{OF}Erad · 06-04-2005, 08:17 AM

She deserved it!

{OF}Malicious Assault · 06-04-2005, 08:46 AM

There are so many thing that can happen when a person is in a car. From a police stand point, that is the most dangerouss situation there is. You cant see everything the person is doing and there are so many places you can hide a gun in a car. besides a large number of police shootings involve traffic stops. I think he was justified in his actions...now the 80 year old...I'd need to know more about what happened...if she was armed, just because she is 80 doesn't mean she is defenseless

{OF}Erad · 06-04-2005, 09:49 AM

Support your Local Police! They really are there to protect the good people!

{OF}Turf · 06-04-2005, 10:10 AM

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Support your Local Police! They really are there to protect the good people!

unless they're the under-trained john wayne mofo's that you see so often in small departments. if i get pulled over in michigan, i much prefer that it be a state trooper, because you know they will act professional. they have much more extensive training and do psych evals to weed out the john wayne-types.

and what did they do before tasers and pepper spray?

{OF}Erad · 06-04-2005, 10:22 AM

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Support your Local Police! They really are there to protect the good people!

and what did they do before tasers and pepper spray?

Billy Clubs!!!!!!!! Remember Rodney King? Another guy who deserved it....

Doom · 06-04-2005, 11:01 AM

It's *possible* the first tasering was justified, I can't see what's going on in the car, and the video doesn't show much before he nails her...it sure sounds like she's just on the phone, though. Just because she doesn't immediately comply with his demands doesn't justify his blowing her head off, nor does it justify any other form of violence, such as tasering. It's possible to kill someone with a taser, and so an officer should ask himself if the situation merits lethal force before indulging in, in this case, sadistic tendencies.

Regrettably, while I believe the first tasering was probably wrong (since this is a police video, if there was anything to justify the tasering it would have been shown, after all), it's not enough to award damages, due to lack of evidence.

But the second tasering was absolutely excessive. She was given, what, 30 seconds, maybe, to recover? She absolutely positively was no threat to him after the first tasering, and since she's out of the car at this point, there can be no confusion as to her actions, which are not in any way threatening (although it's possible the officer could claim that his victim's screaming in pain and fear were causing him sufficient discomfort, and thus threat to his well-being, that further force was necessary to protect himself...the way how the law is nowadays, this probably would be sufficient defense).

If the cop shot her in the chest, would he still be justified in shooting her again if she didn't immediately comply with his further demands, but instead 'chose' to lie on the ground screaming in pain and bleeding?

It's funny to hear the cop say 'it's no big deal'...maybe someone should offer to taser his wife, children, and mother, TWICE in a short period of time, and note the hypocrisy if he objects.

Just my opinion, of course, but having been on the business end of crooked police officers (and having many friends on the police force as well), I've a pretty good idea of the reality of these situations.

Take care,

Rick