Thanks for the reply Barney. Well I didn't know that about Visiontek

, but I got the card for $150, maybe that's why.
I'm not planning on o/c'ing either so I think we'll just see how it goes. I hope you're not saying they are so crappy I should try something else?? There were only 5 reviews of the card at Newegg but they were all 5's. Of course they all probably work for Visiontek, lol.
I finally found older drivers and I've d/l'ed the 9.11's and 9.12's, what would you recommend for me to start with? I also have the hotfix for the 9.12's.
Do you mess with Avivo and Hydravision? Fusion Media Explorer? I'm excited about Hydravision while photo editing (I have two monitors) and Lightroom 2 supports two monitors.
Barney, for the price I paid I think I'll try this card but now I'm wondering if I just should have sprung for a HD 4890.