Unreal Tournament 300 - Page 2

{DvT}JonahHex · 05-22-2007, 02:22 PM

LOL

Sorry Barney, can't call it off. I just can't relate to the idea that devotees of THE "murder everything in sight" game (aka first person shooter) agree not to fight.

It's "jib".

hehehe

{OF}Barney_B · 05-22-2007, 06:07 PM

OK then, if it's "gibs" you want. I'll bring on my bad 56k connection and get my blood all over your pretty green outfit. That ought to teach you! Try getting those stains out.

Capt. Insane · 05-22-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by {OF}Barney_B

I agree with you Jonah on the correct pronunciation but I still say it with the hard g. It just doesn't sound right with the soft g to me. Let's call the whole thing off! (Warning! Obscure reference)

It's not that obscure Barney. And as for the pronunciation, despite how "giblet" is spelled, it really should be a hard "g." In general, the letter doesn't really make soft sounds. Think of all the "g" words you can think of: about 95% of them, if not more, have a hard sound

{OF}Flying_Dutchman · 05-22-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Insane

It's not that obscure Barney. And as for the pronunciation, despite how "giblet" is spelled, it really should be a hard "g." In general, the letter doesn't really make soft sounds. Think of all the "g" words you can think of: about 95% of them, if not more, have a hard sound

I'm Dutch. I pronounce everything with a hard "g"

Capt. Insane · 05-22-2007, 08:46 PM

Yeah, so do the Germans. OK, let me rephrase that: think of all the English words with the letter "G" in them

{DvT}JonahHex · 05-22-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Insane

And as for the pronunciation, despite how "giblet" is spelled, it really should be a hard "g." In general, the letter doesn't really make soft sounds. Think of all the "g" words you can think of: about 95% of them, if not more, have a hard sound

Ok. lemme see...

How is the 'g' pronounced in "budget" and "age"?

What about in "daughter" and "laughter"?

This is English we are talking about here - consistency of spelling and pronunciation are not features of the language.

...now that I've used the word, how is the 1st 'g' in "language" pronounced? The second? hehe

The correct pronunciation is "jib."

Capt. Insane · 05-22-2007, 10:08 PM

Dude, you're picking all words that come from French; of course they're going to be pronounced in a ****ed up way. And in "daugher" and "laugher" the "g" is technically silent. Look at "English" itself; no soft "g" here.
Take these:
Green, goose, goblet, gross, gregarious, agregate, coagulate, gambit, magnet, slag
English is a combination of Greek, Latin, German, and French words for the most part. The latter is what gives the soft "g" sounds, for the most part, and words where there is not really a "g" sound at all (laughter, daughter, might).
I'm not some idiot; I'm an English major. I take a more in-depth look at the English language than most people do.
Furthermore, go to www.m-w.com and type "gib" into the search box. It'll give you a pronunciation and it's with a hard "g." I'd post a link, but there is none to the entry itself.

{DvT}JonahHex · 05-23-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Capt. Insane

Dude, you're picking all words that come from French; of course they're going to be pronounced in a ****ed up way. And in "daugher" and "laugher" the "g" is technically silent. Look at "English" itself; no soft "g" here.
Take these:
Green, goose, goblet, gross, gregarious, agregate, coagulate, gambit, magnet, slag
English is a combination of Greek, Latin, German, and French words for the most part. The latter is what gives the soft "g" sounds, for the most part, and words where there is not really a "g" sound at all (laughter, daughter, might).
I'm not some idiot; I'm an English major. I take a more in-depth look at the English language than most people do.
Furthermore, go to www.m-w.com and type "gib" into the search box. It'll give you a pronunciation and it's with a hard "g." I'd post a link, but there is none to the entry itself.

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/giblet
gib·let [jib-lit]
–noun Usually, giblets. the heart, liver, gizzard, and the like, of a fowl, often cooked separately.
[Origin: 1275–1325; ME < OF gibelet a stew of game; cf. F gibelotte rabbit stew]

Well, let's see. "giblet ... Origin: Old French... "

I wonder why, when discussing a word that is of French origin, I would chose words for which to compare its pronunciation which are also of French origin? Must be the Deviant in me.

Maybe instead of trying to apply Germanic pronunciation to French words we should apply Swahili or Mongolian?

However, since you are partial to hard consonant sounds, I would vote for Klingon pronunciation.

Regarding Merrium-Webster, yes, when "Gib" is a nickname for "Gilbert," a hard 'g' is appropriate. However, I don't think we are creating any Gilberts in UT nor are we castrating any felines.

We are extracting innards ... giblets ... gibs.

...and "jib" is still the correct pronunciation.

{OF}Barney_B · 05-23-2007, 02:24 AM

Gib is a nickname for Gilbert? Merrium-Webster needs to pull their head out...and I thought that the Mongols were one of the Germanic tribes but I'm probably wrong about that. I just can't see you slipping up like that. But as far as I'm concerned, a jib is part of a sailing ship and that's that.

Capt. Insane · 05-23-2007, 07:43 AM

It doesn't matter what the dictionary says the definition is. The word gib used in this sense is not entirely refering to giblets. FPS games created their own definition for gibs, meaning bits and pieces of body parts and bloody gore, left over after a foe has been exploded. Therefore, you cannot take it's pronunciation from a word spelled differently. It's not instagiblet; it's instagib.